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Carl Safina (@carlsafina) author of Becoming Wild: How Animal Cultures Raise Families, Create Beauty, and Achieve Peace talks about the culture of animals, the worlds of whale and sharing the planet -with @Skaanapod host Mark Leiren-Young (@leirenyoung).

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Information on Carl Safina

• Becoming Wild:  https://static.macmillan.com/static/holt/becoming-wild/
• Carl Safina’s personal website: http://www.carlsafina.org/
• The Safina Center: http://www.safinacenter.org/

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• The Killer Whale Who Changed the World  
• Orcas Everywhere

Music:

• “Feather, Fur & Fin” by Danny Michel
• Youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ugkain3QUg
• Website:  www.dannymichel.com/
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Timecodes

• 0:00– Intro
• 03:40– How Carl Safina is doing and where he’s at in the world of COVID.
• 08:27– Discussing his latest book Becoming Wild and cultures in other animal species.
• 11:12– “There are only two animals in the world who are currently known, who are able to tell when they are meeting a complete stranger.”
• 16:07– What exactly is culture?
• 22:48– Discussing the complexities of Orca communication and the mystery of their “sound making”.
• 31:06– Animals and careers? “What else do animals do besides make a living?”
• 35:53– Carl Safina’s least favourite whale names.
• 45:20– Discussing Tahlequah and her tour of grief. The affect she had on the world.
• 49:00– “In law, the only living thing that cannot be legally owned…is a human being.” Discussing animals and personhood.
• 56:47– The Safina Centre and their mission.
• 1:04:15– “Feather, Fur & Fin” by Danny Michel